Comments on: Blackboard buys ANGEL Learning Systems http://www.edtechpodcast.com/2009/05/06/blackboard-buys-angel-learning-systems/ EdTechPodcast.com is a podcast that brings education and technology together every week. Subscribe to listen to an in depth discussion on the trends of educational technology. Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:34:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Matt http://www.edtechpodcast.com/2009/05/06/blackboard-buys-angel-learning-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-65 Matt Fri, 08 May 2009 02:07:33 +0000 http://www.edtechpodcast.com/?p=91#comment-65 What do you think the alternative to role based authentication? Is there another way to structure things that you have found that would get around the bb patents? What do you think the alternative to role based authentication? Is there another way to structure things that you have found that would get around the bb patents?

]]> By: Travis http://www.edtechpodcast.com/2009/05/06/blackboard-buys-angel-learning-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-64 Travis Thu, 07 May 2009 22:31:19 +0000 http://www.edtechpodcast.com/?p=91#comment-64 Yes, the mashups may be the saving grace. I also considered this in our program's early days and in fact started building the wrappers. Whatever you do though, don't use role based authentication, else you may feel Bborg stalking your institution. Yes, the mashups may be the saving grace. I also considered this in our program's early days and in fact started building the wrappers. Whatever you do though, don't use role based authentication, else you may feel Bborg stalking your institution.

]]> By: Glen http://www.edtechpodcast.com/2009/05/06/blackboard-buys-angel-learning-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-66 Glen Thu, 07 May 2009 22:22:16 +0000 http://www.edtechpodcast.com/?p=91#comment-66 Thanks for the post. Couldn't agree more with your thoughts on the need for healthy competition to stimulate innovation and better customer service. My team and I (<a href="http://www.scholar360.com" rel="nofollow">www.scholar360.com</a>) were baffled by this news. We've been competing with Bb and Angel for years, so to have them acquired by Bb was very surprising. There are a handful of other LMS vendors out there that this bodes well for, but it is also a clear plus for Moodle and Sakai as well. Thanks for the post. Couldn't agree more with your thoughts on the need for healthy competition to stimulate innovation and better customer service. My team and I (http://www.scholar360.com) were baffled by this news. We've been competing with Bb and Angel for years, so to have them acquired by Bb was very surprising. There are a handful of other LMS vendors out there that this bodes well for, but it is also a clear plus for Moodle and Sakai as well.

]]> By: Matt Stenson http://www.edtechpodcast.com/2009/05/06/blackboard-buys-angel-learning-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-28 Matt Stenson Thu, 07 May 2009 20:07:33 +0000 http://www.edtechpodcast.com/?p=91#comment-28 What do you think the alternative to role based authentication? Is there another way to structure things that you have found that would get around the bb patents? What do you think the alternative to role based authentication? Is there another way to structure things that you have found that would get around the bb patents?

]]> By: Travis http://www.edtechpodcast.com/2009/05/06/blackboard-buys-angel-learning-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-27 Travis Thu, 07 May 2009 16:31:19 +0000 http://www.edtechpodcast.com/?p=91#comment-27 Yes, the mashups may be the saving grace. I also considered this in our program's early days and in fact started building the wrappers. Whatever you do though, don't use role based authentication, else you may feel Bborg stalking your institution. Yes, the mashups may be the saving grace. I also considered this in our program's early days and in fact started building the wrappers. Whatever you do though, don't use role based authentication, else you may feel Bborg stalking your institution.

]]> By: Glen http://www.edtechpodcast.com/2009/05/06/blackboard-buys-angel-learning-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-25 Glen Thu, 07 May 2009 16:22:16 +0000 http://www.edtechpodcast.com/?p=91#comment-25 Thanks for the post. Couldn't agree more with your thoughts on the need for healthy competition to stimulate innovation and better customer service. My team and I (<a href="http://www.scholar360.com" rel="nofollow">www.scholar360.com</a>) were baffled by this news. We've been competing with Bb and Angel for years, so to have them acquired by Bb was very surprising. There are a handful of other LMS vendors out there that this bodes well for, but it is also a clear plus for Moodle and Sakai as well. Thanks for the post. Couldn't agree more with your thoughts on the need for healthy competition to stimulate innovation and better customer service. My team and I (http://www.scholar360.com) were baffled by this news. We've been competing with Bb and Angel for years, so to have them acquired by Bb was very surprising. There are a handful of other LMS vendors out there that this bodes well for, but it is also a clear plus for Moodle and Sakai as well.

]]> By: Matt Stenson http://www.edtechpodcast.com/2009/05/06/blackboard-buys-angel-learning-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-24 Matt Stenson Thu, 07 May 2009 13:53:49 +0000 http://www.edtechpodcast.com/?p=91#comment-24 I have to agree with you, that on the surface it looks pretty bleak. However, I think this is the time when edtech can really take the next great leap out of the LMS. Social learning and social networking in general has gotten enough of a foothold to make this a viable option. While I am disheartened by this merger, I am excited to see what new innovations it may bring about outside of blackboard. I have to agree with you, that on the surface it looks pretty bleak. However, I think this is the time when edtech can really take the next great leap out of the LMS. Social learning and social networking in general has gotten enough of a foothold to make this a viable option. While I am disheartened by this merger, I am excited to see what new innovations it may bring about outside of blackboard.

]]> By: BDean http://www.edtechpodcast.com/2009/05/06/blackboard-buys-angel-learning-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-22 BDean Thu, 07 May 2009 03:56:13 +0000 http://www.edtechpodcast.com/?p=91#comment-22 I fully agree with your reflections in the last couple of paragraphs. We live in a convergence culture and the mashup thoughts are "spot on." In fact, some from the early days of e-learning might recall the fact that many of us ran e-learning programs without an LMS. We just pulled together the best of individual products in order to produce a custom product that fits the individual needs of our school/program. This recent news is definitely challenging me to more deeply consider "Life after the LMS." I fully agree with your reflections in the last couple of paragraphs. We live in a convergence culture and the mashup thoughts are “spot on.” In fact, some from the early days of e-learning might recall the fact that many of us ran e-learning programs without an LMS. We just pulled together the best of individual products in order to produce a custom product that fits the individual needs of our school/program. This recent news is definitely challenging me to more deeply consider “Life after the LMS.”

]]> By: Travis http://www.edtechpodcast.com/2009/05/06/blackboard-buys-angel-learning-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-21 Travis Thu, 07 May 2009 03:42:24 +0000 http://www.edtechpodcast.com/?p=91#comment-21 I have been managing my school's LMS since we started. WebCT was still a free product. Just yesterday, I was on top of the world in a career sense, despite looming budget cuts, furloughs etc. Here I am getting ready to present at AUC and share some of my knowledge with others in the community, someone from Angel marketing just contacted me about being interviewed for a marketing piece. WTH I thought, 'If everything here goes bad, I know this system pretty well. Hmm, maybe I could get a job with them or at least put myself out to the community. maybe some consulting....' I love my job and my work environment, just contigency planing, you know.<br><br>I obviously was working on the wrong contingency. I was just finishing a practice presentation before some faculty when I got a call that the listserv was going nuts. Stunned is not the word. I believe I am going through all seven stages of grief at once. <br><br>I won't rant the obvious other than I've seen this movie before and many people involved ran out screaming in frustration. <br><br>How am I to believe the sequel won't follow the same formula. This is not about innovation, it is all about grabbing intellectual property and shelving the pieces that don't fit in with their plan. Bborg as they have been named by the Angel community does not play well with others. Fitting with Star Trek and Angels and Demons oming out. I have been managing my school's LMS since we started. WebCT was still a free product. Just yesterday, I was on top of the world in a career sense, despite looming budget cuts, furloughs etc. Here I am getting ready to present at AUC and share some of my knowledge with others in the community, someone from Angel marketing just contacted me about being interviewed for a marketing piece. WTH I thought, 'If everything here goes bad, I know this system pretty well. Hmm, maybe I could get a job with them or at least put myself out to the community. maybe some consulting….' I love my job and my work environment, just contigency planing, you know.

I obviously was working on the wrong contingency. I was just finishing a practice presentation before some faculty when I got a call that the listserv was going nuts. Stunned is not the word. I believe I am going through all seven stages of grief at once.

I won't rant the obvious other than I've seen this movie before and many people involved ran out screaming in frustration.

How am I to believe the sequel won't follow the same formula. This is not about innovation, it is all about grabbing intellectual property and shelving the pieces that don't fit in with their plan. Bborg as they have been named by the Angel community does not play well with others. Fitting with Star Trek and Angels and Demons oming out.

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